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DIVISION 56
LOCAL CHAIRMAN’S NOTICE

Tie Up Rule

There appears to be a “lack of understanding” regarding the agreement regarding tying up for rest.  “Lack of understanding” was polite.  There certainly is abuse of the agreement.

Extra Board Engineer can tie up for rest for eight (8) hours.

Extra Board Engineers can tie up for rest for ten (10) hours.

Extra Board Engineers can tie up for rest for twelve (12) hours.

 

Is that clear?

NOT ODD HOURS, NOT ELEVEN (11) HOURS, NOT SO MANY HOURS AND SO MANY MINUTES, SUCH AS 35 MINUTES.  NOTHING OTHER THAN THE 8 - 10 - 12 - LISTED ABOVE, - - - -  EXPECTING THE FOLLOWING:

Pool Freight Engineers working back from Yuma can tie up for eighteen (18) hours.  - (deadheads do not count as working, unless the deadhead is at the end of a service trip.  Meaning without taking rest after working.)  Extra Engineer’s assume the conditions of the assignment they work.  So any extra engineer filling a pool vacancy can tie up for the 18 hours after working back from Yuma.  No - - extra engineers cannot tie up for 18'01", or 18'35" or 18'45" or anything other than the 18 hours.

Stop abusing the system so that your Brothers and Sisters will Stop calling me and reporting the abuses.  Stop abusing your fellow engineers.

If you see someone abusing the tie up rule call me so that I can untie them, and I WILL UNTIE THEM, or at least change the tie up to the proper amount of time!!!!!!!!!

This abuse causes angry at each other, it causes everyone extra bitterness, and I receive more phone calls complaining of the abuse.  Also, the Carrier has already dropped the 18 hour tie up function from the pool screen because of abuse by Extra Engineers.   One good thing is coming.  With the new computer system this function should revert to the old S.P. System which would only allow 8-10-12 hour tie ups.

Isn’t the U.P. enough in it’s self?  They are impossible to deal with, they are ruthless and heartless, and only care about the bottom line.  They don’t give a damn about human beings.  Do we have to be like them??

For the Committee, D.W. Hannah, Local Chairman
03/07/01


ACCURATE REPORTING ON TIMESLIP

THIS IS A MUST READ MUST COMPLY NOTE:

PLEASE ENTER IN THE COMMENT

SECTION OF YOUR TIE UP THE FOLLOWING:

YES, EACH AND EVERY TIME SLIP.

NAME OF CONDUCTOR/FOREMAN/ENGINEER.  THIS IS   ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY ON TIE UP EVERY TIME YOU GO TO WORK ON EVERY TRIP.

IF WORKING FLAT RATE JOB, ENTER INTO COMMENT, “FLAT RATE JOB, NO CLAIM FOR ITD/FTD.”

IF YOU ARE POST ‘86, AND WORKING POOL FREIGHT, LOCAL FREIGHT, HELPER SERVICE, OR MADE UP SERVICE, ENTER INTO COMMENT, “POST ‘86, NO CLAIM FOR ITD/FTD.”

IF YOU ARE PRE ‘86 AND WORKING POOL FREIGHT, LOCAL FREIGHT, HELPER SERVICE, OR MADE UP SERVICE, - THIS IS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO EXPLAIN.   The overtime divisor is 16.25  Overtime starts after 9'54" on 198 miles, or 10' on 200 plus miles, or whatever the miles are divided by 16.25, if on a 130 mile schedule.  Overtime is paid at the high rate.  ITD/FTD is paid at the low rate.  Therefore O.T. is always best to claim as long as it computers to greater amounts than the ITD/FTD.    If so, enter in comments, “claim O.T. after 9'54" on duty, no claim for ITD/FTD.”

In the event your ITD/FTD actually exceeds the overtime, then make sure your times are correct.  You can stay on ITD unit a bonafide departure (per your agreement.)  The Carrier is showing you departed at the time of your air test.  (What a joke?)  That’s not per your agreement, but I don’t want to get into a shouting match over departures.  Most of you should know when you make a bonafide departure.  Make damn sure you show the correct time!

Why is this important?  Three crew members on the same job up North were all fired by this Company over ITD/FTD.  Even though the Conductor was post ‘86 he was fired as well.  The Carrier said he “participated in fraud,” and he was also dismissed.  While the Carrier’s case is certainly weak as best, I don’t want the same thing happening here.   (The other two received protection more than claimed for the ITD/FTD, but the Carrier still fired them.)

Entering the names of each Conductor/Foreman/Engineer helps me process claims.  Translogs are only good for 27 days.  So I can’t research the name of the person you worked with after 27 days.  But work histories are good for 90 days.  So if you put their name on your time slip, sometimes I can research what that person entered and help process your claims.

FOR THE COMMITTEE,

D.W. HANNAH, LOCAL CHAIRMAN

02/21/01

Local Chairmans notice, Cutting the pools

Pool Regulation or cuts)

Many of you have called about the pools and the lay in times.  Pool freight is regulated by miles, and not by hours. 

Co. File E&F 188-145 Org. File E-27300

ARTICLE 8 MILEAGE REGULATION

The first paragraph of Article 32, Section 6(d) of the BLE Western Lines Agreement and Article 24, Section 23, of the EP&SW Agreement provide:

"In the regulation of passenger or other assigned service, sufficient engineers will be assigned to keep the mileage or equivalent thereof within the limitations of 4000 and 4800 miles for passenger service, and 3200 and 3800 miles for other regular service, as provided herein. If in any service, additional assignments would reduce earnings below these limits, regulation will be effected by requiring the regular assigned man or men to lay off when the equivalent of 4800 miles in passenger or 3800 miles in other regular service has been reached."

The above provision will be canceled and replaced with the following language: "In the regulation of passenger or other assigned service, sufficient engineers will be assigned to keep the mileage or equivalent thereof within the limitations of 4000 and 4800 miles for passenger service, and 3600 and 4200 for other regular service, as provided herein. If in any service, additional assignments would reduce earnings below these limits, regulation will be effected by requiring the regular assigned employee to lay off when the equivalent of 4800 miles in passenger service or 4200 miles in other regular service has been reached."

Below is a list of turns that have been cut.  I am listing these because some of them were taken off the list because of leaves of absence and you might not have taken those into account.   

12/04 - 10 turns cut off RE10 Pool. (Colton to Yuma Pool).

12/04 -   8 turns cut off RE09 Pool. (L.A. Basin Pool).

12/20 -   8 turns cut off RE09 Pool. (L.A. Basin Pool).

12/22 -   4 turns cut off RE09 Pool. (L.A. Basin Pool).

(That’s 20 turns cut off the Basin Pool in 18 days!  Of course this is attributed to the adding of trains on the Long Pool out of L.A.)

I feel bad about cutting the pools because for every turn we cut someone else becomes unemployed.

Anyone desiring to vacate a pool assignment and return to the extra list may do so.  Just call me and I’ll arrange it. (No Sadie Hawkins Bumps - just the extra list!)

For the Committee, D.W. Hannah, Chairman

12/22/00    


 

DIVISION 56
LOCAL CHAIRMAN’S OPINION

FIRST ---- NOTICE I’VE CHANGED THIS HEADING TO “OPINION” INSTEAD OF REPORT.  I TOO AM ENTITLED TO MY OPINION AND I WANT TO EXPRESS IT!  AND I’M GOING TO EXPRESS IT.

UTU PROPOSED NATIONAL AGREEMENT

WHAT A RAG!  WHAT JUNK!  HOW INSULTING!  WHAT DRIBBLE!  WHAT FECES!  WHAT GARBAGE.

I BELIEVE THIS DOCUMENT WAS WRITTEN BY UNION PACIFIC LABOR RELATIONS INSTEAD OF A UNION NATIONAL  NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE.  IT SURE READS LIKE A UNION PACIFIC  LABOR RELATIONS DOCUMENT.

O.K.  FIRST: THEY AGAIN DIVIDED THE PRE AND POST BY GIVING THE PRE’S A $1200.00 “LONGEVITY BONUS.”  WAIT A MINUTE.... I THOUGHT BOTH THE UTU AND BLE SAID THEY WERE GOING TO FIX THE PRE AND POST ISSUES?  WHAT HAPPENED?

2ND ISSUE.  MY GOD THEY CREATED ANOTHER CLASS OF HAVE NOTS - NEW DATE 1/1/2003.  SO WITH THE HUBS WE WILL HAVE THE “HAVES,” THE “HAVE NOTS” THE HAVE NOT NOTS,” AND AFTER 1/1/2003, WE WILL HAVE “THE HAVE NOT NOTS NOT!”   MY GOD I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS.  IS THIS A FIX TO PRE AND POST?  ONLY IF YOUR ON DRUGS.

SO ON 4/1/2001 ALL PRE’S GET $1200.00.  THE POST GET THE BIG GREENIE WEENIE.  OH BUT ON 7/1/2001 WE WILL ALL GET A .025% PAY INCREASE.  OH BOY – HOLD ME BACK!

THEN ARTICLE II IS AN “OPTIONAL ALTERNATIVE COMPENSATION PROGRAM.WHICH STATES: “...A CARRIER, AT ITS DISCRETION...”  THAT’S ENOUGH SAID.  NEVER AT THE CARRIER’S  DISCRETION.  WE ALREADY HAVE  TOO MUCH OF THAT!

THEN THEY CREATED A “PAY SYSTEM SIMPLIFICATION” PROVISION.  YES WE NEED THAT, BUT NOT SOMETHING WRITTEN BY THE CARRIER , AS SO OBVIOUS IS THIS “PROPOSED AGREEMENT”.  IN (C) OF THAT PROVISION IT STATES “...AND CARRIER SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED TO RESPOND TO ANY SUCH CLAIM.”  WHAT?  NOW THE CARRIER DOESN’T EVEN HAVE TO GIVE YOU A DENIAL ON A CLAIM?  NOT PAYING OUR CURRENT CLAIMS IS BAD ENOUGH, BUT NOW THEY CAN SIMPLY FORGET IT!  YES, I CALL THAT PAY SIMPLIFICATION.  THAT’S PAY SIMPLIFICATION FOR THE CARRIER AND THE SHAFT FOR THE RANK AND FILE!!  THAT’S YOU AND ME AND THAT’S THE LAST GREEN YOU’LL EVER SEE UNDER THIS RAG.

“COMPUTATION OF TRIP RATES” PROVISION.  MEANING CREATING FLAT RATES.  (1) STATES: “... ADD TOGETHER ALL EARNINGS”.  NOW WE KNOW WHY THEY REFUSE PAY OUR CURRENT CLAIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE CALCULATED IN THE TRIP RATES.

O.K. S.P. PEOPLE.  WHAT U.P. COULDN’T TAKE AWAY IN THE MERGER THEY ARE TRYING HERE. GET THIS PROVISION CALLED  “ENHANCED MANPOWER UTILIZATION.”  SECTION 1 (A) STATES: “A CARRIER MAY PROPOSE IMPLEMENTATION OF A RULE PROVIDING FOR THE AUTOMATIC MARK UPOF EMPLOYEES FOR SERVICE AFTER THE EXPIRATION OF ANY PERIOD OF AUTHORIZED OR APPROVED TIME OFF...”  ------------- NOT --------NOT ----------- NOT -------------- NOT ----------- NOT.

THEN IN SIDE LETTER 1, THE ORGANIZATION (UTU) AGREES TO LET “INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGIC”  TAKE YOUR JOBS.  SO THE UTU PREVIOUSLY SOLD THE REAR BRAKEMAN, THEY PREVIOUSLY SOLD  THE HEAD BRAKEMAN, NOW THEY ARE TRYING TO SELL THE CONDUCTOR OR ENGINEER.  I’M NOT SURE WHICH, MAYBE BOTH.  QUESTION?  WHERE IN THE HELL ARE THE UNION DUES GOING TO COME FROM TO PAY THESE PEOPLE THEIR OUTRAGEOUS SALARIES IF WE ARE ALL GONE?

LET’S SELL THEIR JOBS INSTEAD.  THAT’S A GOOD IDEA.

SIDE LETTER TWO SAYS THAT NOTES TAKEN IN NEGOTIATIONS CAN’T EVEN BE REFERRED TO SHOULD DISPUTES ARISE.  WHAT’S THIS, MORE TOP SECRET MATERIALS KEPT FROM THE RANK AND FILE?  TOP SECRET AS IN THE OLD MERGE MEETING BETWEEN THE BLE AND UTU.   NOTES TAKEN AT MEETINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.  I CAN’T UNDERSTAND THIS SIDE LETTER?   DISPUTES ALWAYS ARISE IN A NEW NATIONAL AGREEMENT.  BUT THEN AGAIN THEY COVERED THAT BY CREATING A NATIONAL DISPUTES COMMITTEE.  OH THAT GOOD’S... MORE U.P. LABOR RELATIONS SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS IN THE “DISPUTE COMMITTEES.”  THIS DOCUMENT IS SO U.P. WE KNOW WHAT THE “DISPUTES COMMITTEE” WILL CONSIST OF..... MORE U.P.

THIS RAG SOUNDS SO PRO CARRIER IT’S BEYOND COMPREHENSION BY THIS POOR LITTLE OLE COUNTRY BOY FROM MISSISSIPPI.  THIS DOCUMENT IS ALL PRO  CARRIER AND HAS NOTHING IN IT FOR US – THE WORKING FOLK.  IT’S VERY ANTI - LABOR.  SAD.  SAD, INDEED!

I KNOW THE HISTORY OF CONTRACTS ON THIS PROPERTY.  (REMEMBER I SAID THAT. I’LL REMIND YOU LATER.)   I’M WRITING BLE PRESIDENT ED DUBROSKI AND TELLING HIM NOT TO SEND ME A PARALLEL “PROPOSED” AGREEMENT SUCH AS THIS UTU RAG.  I SUGGEST YOU DO THE SAME.  ED PROMISED A “FIX” TO PRE AND POST.  HE STATED PRE AND POST WAS THE #1 BLE ISSUE THAT HAD TO BE RESOLVED.  LET’S HOLD HIM TO HIS WORD.  WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET HIS ATTENTION.  HE’S UP FOR  RE-ELECTION IN SEPTEMBER OF 2001.  YES, INDEED.  I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET HIS ATTENTION.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO A LARGE TURN OUT AT THE 10/18/2000 UNION MEETING. 

MY OPINION, MY FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH. SO STATED BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS.

D.W. Hannah, Chairman

 


(We tried to tell them)

The so called Super Pool (Los Angeles to Yuma) will have turns cut and turns added to the
West Colton to Yuma Pool( East Pool) and the West Colton to Long Beach (West Colton Basin Pool).
The Company admitted only 20% of the turns were making the LA to Yuma run in under 12 hours.
The BLE believes these numbers of 20% are inflated greatly, we beleive it is more like 3%. The changes were made in an attempt to have more crews available rather than sitting on trains that will not make it over the road. DUH!


DIVISION 56
LOCAL CHAIRMAN’S NOTICE

MONEY EXTRA BOARD ENGINEERS

MONEYPOOL FREIGHT ENGINEERS

 

This is difficult to try to explain, and very difficult to handle without your support.  I see many of you extra board and pool engineers leaving “money” on the table by NOT claiming things to which you are legitimately entitled.

The Carrier is calling you off the extra board and placing you on a WE10 board and NOT paying the flat rate.  We dispute their position and I’m appealing the claims you submit to me.  But in most cases you could make more than the flat rate.  Many many many times you can make more than the flat rate.

When you are called for a job on the WE10 board, and NOT paid the “all inclusive” flat rate the Carrier loses it’s ability to do with you as they please.  The collective bargaining agreement, under Section 3(b) of Article 6, states how you can be called and so used.  So it MAKES a BIG difference as to what you are told at the time called.  Yes the Carrier can change your call, but only up to the time BEFORE you perform service.  And you must be advised at the time called about your service.

There is NO easy way to explain all of this.  DOCUMENTATION, DOCUMENTATION, DOCUMENTATION.  You need to document the information and call me and give me the FACTS, and I’ll advise you what to claim.  

The last two days I have received several telephone calls from engineers working on the extra board, called on WE10 positions, who handled multiple trains.  The Carrier thinks their “cute” by doing so, but I can assure you that one day they’ll have to PAY UP.  These calls were NOT even for STFS, even if they had been they were outside the provisions of the STFS rule.  So in each case the engineer would begin a new day of 130 miles.

This Carrier is totally out of control.  They have NO respect for your collective bargaining agreement, and they simply want the best of both worlds.  They want the flat rate when it benefits them, and then they want the 130 mile basic day when it doesn’t, yet they still want to abuse the provisions of the 130 mile day.  No neutral will support BOTH ways. 

If you are called west of Colton on the WE10 Board and make a simple start out of a terminal and return to that terminal that should be flat rated.  But they are refusing to pay the claims.  So as an example, if you are called on duty at Dolores and work to C of I, and return to Dolores you are all done.  YOU CANNOT COMMENCE ANOTHER START, WITHOUT BEING PAID AT LEAST A NEW DAY.  If you are called on duty at any terminal, and work out of and back into that terminal, and depart again after 8 hours on duty, you commence a new day.  Today I received a call from an engineer who was called on duty at CX809 XE10, put on the WE10 for the QRVCI, deadheaded to Main Street, worked the train back to C of I.  In this instant case this engineer had completed his day.  Yet he put together another train, departed C of I, and took that train to Spadra.  Not without additionally money.  (If paid under the flat rate, and he wasn’t, he would not be entitled to additional money.)  But since he was only called for the QRVCI any subsequent work requires subsequent payments.  And there’s a big difference in whether he’s pre or post 86.         

Under both the WE10, and flat rated jobs, penalty payments still apply.  Changing opposing trains between terminals, performing yard service where yard crews are employed, (any work NOT in connection with your own train), hostling service, lap backs and helper service are all valid claims. (Yes deadhead lap backs are valid, even though the Carrier wants to dispute the issue.  But what don’t they dispute?)

But the big issue here is the musical trains where this Division believes you can do anything on a WE10 call for 12 hours and only get paid 8 hours and 4 hours overtime.  They are (or will be) SADLY mistaken.  You can NOT perform musical train service on the WE10 call without additional compensation, PERIOD.  

 

(I also see pool freight engineers called for one train, who work another train first into the yard, then take their train to destination.  There’s big money there to claim.)  The Colton Yardmaster are taking the SP760 RE09, and RE10 Pools and having them do dog catching and yard work that’s not in connection with the train to which they were called.  This work belongs to yard service and the extra list.  In addition to the claim for the pool engineer a parallel claim should be submitted for the individual standing for service.

Look at this long pool story.  On duty L.A., worked to Colton.  Tied the train down.  Deadhead to Hinda, patched a Westbound, worked that train to South Fontana, deadhead back to Colton, worked another train Colton to L.A.  There’s a lot of money here people.  This type of thing is bull crap. 

Colton West Pool story.  On duty Colton to work to Long Beach.  First deadheaded to Pomona to patch a local and work that to Colton.  This trip completed the engineer’s date by agreement.  But he was then sent to Long Beach on the train which originally called.  This action would also create a run around for the entire rested Basin Pool, and should generate a claim for the extra engineer standing for the patch service.

Long Beach (Basin Pool).  On duty Long Beach, worked to Colton.  This completes the day.  But sent back out again, to patch and return to Colton.  Again this runs around the entire rested Basin Colton Pool, and generates a claim for the extra engineer standing for the patch service.

Colton to Yuma Pool.  Called on duty Colton, deadhead to Mira Loma for autos.  Got the train together, departed, tied it down en route, deadheaded to Loma Linda to work another auto train back to Mira Loma, put that train away, and then worked to Yuma.  This type of story is pure B.S. and must be stopped, and it can’t be done unless you report it to me.    

This Division is out of control and is going to continue to deteriorate.  I am buried in claims, but I’ll work out of it.  We have a meeting scheduled later this month with Labor Relations over claims, so keep submitted your claims.  Yes you may be angry that your claims are denied but some day you might just experience a big fat pay day, too!

I too am human and get tired.  I don’t really appreciate telephone calls at home at 1 or 2 am regarding a claim.  As a matter of fact I get a little pissed off.  And I get tired, too.  But if you can put up with a little of my personal frustration and temperament, call me at the office during the day and I’ll do my best to help you with these claims.

You can use the money much more than the Union Pacific.

 * * * *

 

       Following is Section 6(b) of Article 6 from the 1982 SPWL Agreement.

 

       (b) Engineers in pool or irregular freight service may be called to make short trips and turnarounds with the understanding that one or more turnaround trips may be started out of the same terminal and paid actual miles with a minimum of 100 miles for a day, provided, (1) that the mileage of all the trips does not exceed 100 miles, (2) that the distance run from the terminal to the turning point does not exceed 25 miles, and (3) that engineers shall not be required to begin work on a succeeding trip out of the initial terminal after having been on duty eight consecutive hours, except as a new day, subject to the first-in first-out rule or practice.  (This does not apply to engineers in pusher and helper service, mine runs, work trains, wreck trains.)

            The number of trips need not be specified when engineers are called, but the call should specify short turnaround service.

            An engineer after completing each trip in short turnaround service shall be placed at the foot of the list and permitted to work his way toward first out position, but may, if needed for another short turnaround trip within eight hours from time ordered to report for duty on first trip, be run around other engineers without runaround penalty.

            If engineer placed at foot of list reaches first out position prior to expiration of eight hours from time first ordered to report for short turnaround service and can be used on another short turnaround trip before the expiration of the first eight hours, it will be optional with the Company to call  him for other service or hold him for short turnaround service.

For the Committee, D.W. Hannah, Local Chairman

04/14/00


Regular assigned engineers taking emergency work should do so at your own peril.

Timekeeping is looking for any reason to deny anything, including very valid claims, such as working off assignment.

Here’s an example. Road switcher Engineer regularly assigned to 4:30 pm job. Takes a call for a 9:00 am job and ties up at 3:30 pm. He properly claimed the 9:00 am job and the earnings of his regular job. Timekeeping’s position is that there is "NO LOSS OF EARNINGS" therefore they will NOT pay him his regular job.

Certainly I will appeal the claims to Labor Relations. That process takes 2 or 3 years. And U.P. Labor Relations likes to reargue everything even if they have previously lost the argument in arbitration. U.P. feels that sooner are later they will get a "friendly" neutral that will give them what they want.

Remember this when the phone rings from CMS!

For the Committee, D.W. Hannah, Chairman 07/16/99


Local Chairman’s Notice

Los Angeles Extra Engineers filling Colton vacancies

 

Timekeeping will NOT allow Los Angeles Extra Board Engineers any additional compensation for filling Colton vacancies.

 

Herein I refer you to issue 11 of Award 458, (this deals with deadheading to yard service). Also, reference E&F 1-2248 (the road switcher agreement) that states payments for said service are "all inclusive."

Southern Pacific used to allow mileage and deadhead time for these jobs in addition to regular earnings. Union Pacific will NOT.

The Federal Railroad Administration requires that extra boards only have one reporting point, per extra board. Obviously Los Angeles’ reporting point is Taylor Yard. When called for service at West Colton, (off the Los Angeles Extra List), you should comply with the Federal Law and report for service in Los Angeles and request a carryall to what ever outside point you have been called to report to. And after completion of service you are entitled to another carryall back to your original on duty point of Taylor Yard. (Why spend your own money for gas and wear and tear on your car and volunteer your time to make U.P. richer?)

If you drive yourself to Colton you will NOT be paid for doing so and you will save the Union Pacific the cost of two carryalls; one to get you to your Colton job, and the other to take you back to your own duty point at Taylor.

Remember this when the phone rings from CMS!

P.S. I want to say that additional deadhead miles would be allowed for mileage jobs such as the helpers, east pool, and non flat rated local freights. I want to say that. But with timekeeping’s current denial rates I can’t guarantee that you will be paid those additional miles either!

For the Committee, D.W. Hannah, Local Chairman 07/16/99


 

 

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